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Shoreham Sod Farms Could Be Used as Solar Farms

A proposal has sod farms and open land in the Shoreham area becoming solar farms.

A solar energy company based out of Pennsylvania has proposed turning sod farms and open land in the Shoreham area into solar farms.

John F. Curtis, CEO of Green Energy Capital Partners, gave a presentation to the Shoreham Civic on Feb. 15 discussing the possibilities of utilizing the open land to develop these solar energy farms.

According to a report in the Village Beacon Record, Curtis said they hope to develop several solar farms in the area and connect them to LIPA grids close by.

The solar panels on the farm would take in sunlight, convert it to electricity and distribute it locally through the Shoreham area. According to the report, Curtis said the company has been in talks with the owners of the DeLalio Sod Farm in Shoreham about the solar farms.

The presentation and entire civic meeting can be viewed on Civicmeetings.com.

Andrew Shields February 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Did not hear of this until now! Lots of questions!
BillLongisland February 24, 2012 at 12:48 PM
What a joke ! This is an expensive, Failed "technology" ! Are we, somehow, in the Southwest, or West United States ? This deal is Only good for the land owners and the Fake "energy company. This is the most, consciously misbegotten, Tax Payer funded, Waste of Public Money, these Political Elites and LIPA, Ever came up with ! And that's saying something !
Tom February 24, 2012 at 01:04 PM
Scare people into thinking this technology will work and save them money. What a joke. We would be paying it off for the next 15 years. Where is the savings? Put something there that will generate tax money for the community. I know, not in my back yard. You tree huggers are killing Long Island.
shara February 24, 2012 at 02:54 PM
Tom, What do you propose we put there? I am a 'treehugger' but ALL for generating energy that will eventually be of cost savings to the community.... there is no "quick fix" for this and we all should know that. There has to be a compromise..... Ideas anyone?
BillLongisland February 24, 2012 at 04:09 PM
Depending on what is built there, the questions has to be, will the property be on the Property Tax Rolls ? This Fake, Phony, Fraudulent "solar farm" is probably Tax Payer supported All The Way !
BillLongisland February 24, 2012 at 05:27 PM
Well, Folks howzabout we adopt the new Energy Plan proposed by our kind of esteemed Regime Leader ? If this is true let's just "bag" Fake "solar power" suggestion and go for Pond Scum...Independence Hill has a corner on the "market" already ! Obama: Use 'algae' as substitute for oil Joel Gehrke Published: February 23, 2012 President Obama admitted today that he does not have a "silver bullet" solution to skyrocketing gas prices, but he proposed alternative energy sources such as "a plant-like substance called algae" as a way of cutting dependence on oil by 17 percent. Read more: http://newsok.com/obama-use-algae-as-substitute-for-oil/article/feed/351685#ixzz1nJyP2Dij
pam February 24, 2012 at 07:23 PM
Obviously Bill and Tom were not at the meeting and have no knowledge on the subject. Germany which produces 25% of all of its electricity via solar is about the same latitude as Maine. Bill and Tom must be happy paying over $4/gal for home heating oil and nearly same for gas. They must also enjoy the increased costs to run peaker units in the summer when the need is greatest for AC. we are at the mercy of Wall St. "futures" traders - we have no control over the market pricing of fuel. Mr. Curtis indicated the project was privately funded - no government backing and he would hire local trades to do the work. He also said the cost of producing power w/solar is due to match fuel based production within a year in NY. I say pass the Solar Jobs Act, put our out of work contractors back on the job, train for a new industry and wean off of oil and gas soon. A 100 acre solar farm produces enough for 3000 homes. If every hamlet had one solar farm that would significantly reduce our reliance on gas/oil electric plants and the costs to get it to our homes. We need more information on these solar farms and we need to make decisions about our energy use ourselves. LIPA is not going to do this for us - we need to demand it.
BillLongisland February 24, 2012 at 08:12 PM
Great, we are now taking lessons from The Losers...Germany ! All of your wishes of "how" you are going to effect this, are just pipe dreams, by the time Politicians get ahold of it. This is s Fake "alternative energy" technology.
Our Community February 24, 2012 at 11:24 PM
In case you have not heard Germany is the one country keeping all of Europe out of economic crises. They are the one country in Europe that is not struggling in their own debt problems and have about 5-6% unemployment. By the year 2025 Germany will be rid of most oil imports and Nuclear energy because they are installing alternate energy and solar. They are the world leader in solar and they have kept their citizens employed while ridding the country of oil dependency. Their homes, factories and cars will all be powered by alternate energy. You may have heard of a gentleman named Warren Buffet who just invested $2 Billion into solar farms. Along with those two companies Apple and Google who combined just invested about half a Billion in solar farms. These are some of the world’s smartest people and they do not invest in something that is foolish. This energy will always be there for use, for us, independent of what the world crises are. By doing this we are not putting money into a foreign country for their oil, which we are doing now, to generate electricity. This is a web site that you can go to listing some of the solar farms around the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photovoltaic_power_stations But just Google “solar farms”. When you do you see many of them being built all over this country.
BillLongisland February 25, 2012 at 09:31 AM
"Solyndra" is the "texbook" case of how this is a Fake Science, for "bundlers" of The Regime, Not for a viable "energy alternative". Here is how Germany is Not "one country keeping all of Europe out of economic crises"... "Following a rapid recovery from the 2008 09 recession, growth has slowed in the second half of 2011 and the economy is facing a soft patch with significant downside risks to activity." http://www.oecd.org/document/0/0,3746,en_2649_34569_49507072_1_1_1_1,00.html How is that "not struggling" ? The truth is, that compared to other EU countries Germany's economy may "appear" to be successful...but that ain't saying much ! It, like other socalled "European Union" members is continuing to be buckling under the Dead Weight, of it's own failed Socialist Ideologies, and especially, it's moribund "Leftist" "diversity" policies of "multiculturalism", of which so much of their failed economy, and the economies of other EU countries, is based upon these days... . 17 October 2010 Last updated at 03:51 ET Merkel says German multicultural society has failed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451 You are completely, misrepresenting their socalled "world leader" status. They are no better off than the country it is allegedly credited as saving...Greece. Try again !
Craig February 25, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Bill- All of the "taxpayer subsidies" for solar since 2008 equate to one week in Iraq. What was better money spent ? Using your logic we should pull the US Navy out of the Straights of Hormuz. Wonder what will happen to your gas price. Defense is a subsidy you know - connect the dots there. This company mentioned here is taking all the risks. They are proposing to finance the build, maintain the array, and guarantee the performance to the utility company for 20 years. You get the power and you get it at below current market rates. Your irate because they stand to get apx 3,000,000 back out of a 11,000,000 dollar build cost ? So are to persue all manners of deductions ? Thats not great economic policy. I would rather have a solar array than a bridge to nowhere. For the record Solyndra went out of business because they could not keep up with mass produced higer efficency panels. Yes it stings, but that was a 500 mill investment in a 5 Billion dollar investment pool by the US in cleantech. the fund as a whole has kicked butt. Was their some collusion there ? Could be, but the Bush administration also funneled monies to Solyndra. I dont know where the rant against Germany is coming from - because they have solar ? read this - electric is cheaper now http://cleantechnica.com/2012/02/09/solar-pv-reducing-price-of-electricity-in-germany/ Another thing. in Germany you also get to go to college for free if you want. Something to consider
BillLongisland February 25, 2012 at 06:37 PM
Iraq.
BillLongisland February 25, 2012 at 06:50 PM
These projections for this project are as inaccurate, as the Fake "technology" it is applied to. Come to me when or if this project comes to fruition, and see that these projections are baseless, "pie in the sky" Lies designed to dupe Tax payers...who will eventually be "footing the bill". Nothing is for "free", and Socialist nations who have labored hard to keep this Lie going, like Germany, are dying under the weight of this misconception, and realizing it's just not true anymore. Your baseless thesis ignores the reality of what they now are experiencing.
TheGreenGuru February 26, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Bill, You obviously know nothing about solar energy. Nothing. Fake? Maybe you’re talking about speculators that are allowed to falsely manipulate the cost of the fuel that we all need? Because the solar panels on my house work flawlessly. You might as well tell me not to drive my car to work in the morning, because you say the wheel is a bogus invention. Failed? Perhaps you’re talking about energy policy based on foreign oil and govt subsidies to oil that have given us nothing but higher prices? Because since the federal incentives for solar energy were enhanced in 2008 (under Bush, not Obama), the cost of putting up solar has dropped about 70%. Now that sounds like a subsidy that is actually working. In fact, it’s part of what put Solyndra out of business. The lower price of solar panels left Solyndra unable to compete. But why pay attention to the facts? Let’s all just believe Bill that Solyndra symbolizes all things solar and let big oil run the show, because has done such great things for us. After one of the mildest winters on record, there is a SURPLUS of oil in the US. But we are paying higher prices than ever because Bill's pals are shipping it all overseas in order to pad their record profits. For what sane reason would we continue put faith in that type of system?
TheGreenGuru February 26, 2012 at 07:04 PM
The only thing that gets me about this Mt. Sinai solar farm, though, is WHY is Mr. DeLalio, a long standing member of the local community, a man that has made quite a decent living at conducting his business with other Long Islanders, is working with a PA company when we have our own solar industry here on LI? If you are asking for local cooperation, use local business and local labor. How would Mr. DeLalio feel if someone in his community was asking special permission to perform a project that had PA sod trucks dumping PA sod all around Mt. Sinai? We all know the answer to that and I implore him to do the right thing. To all you that have say over whether or not he get permission to perform his project, I ask that you make sure he does.
BillLongisland February 26, 2012 at 08:07 PM
You presentation is void of any Facts....Hmmmm...Why ? There are none to convince Tax Payers otherwise. If you are "the Green Guru" howsabout some Facts, Hmmmm, instead of Democrat Progressive "talking points" ? You might as well try to convince us, like The Regime Leader, that "algae" will solve the Fake "energy problem". http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obamas-energy-plan-algae
BillLongisland February 26, 2012 at 08:26 PM
It seems there is more to the story than reported above....a glitch, it seems, to those...ahem..."Green" pipedreams...or if you will, Nightmares ! "Although the county would benefit *finanancially, Curtis said residents wouldn’t see a positive change in their bill and could see a slight initial increase, though the farms would increase the assessed property value of the area. Over a longer period of time,residents could see minor decreases in their electric bills." http://www.northshoreoflongisland.com/pdf/vb_022312w.pdf Oh well, back to the Progressive "think tanks", to spin more Lies to Tax Payers !
DM/MP February 27, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Please dont get in the way of Bills "liberal" use of "air quotes" and "moronica".Hes still deeply conflicted as a Tea Party "Patriot" by the 2nd Amendment "exercise" in Sound Beach this week and a Conservative/Green Councilwoman who ignores him since he's "batpoop" paranoid.Ray Negron wouldve had it "figured out" by now but sadly hes been marginalized by the "political elites" of the local Civic associations.
TheGreenGuru February 27, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Void of any facts, Bill? Every word of my post is a fact. Which part isn't factual? Hmmm, let's review... I guess solar the panels on my house are make-believe? Speculators don't manipulate the price of oil? Our energy policy isn't based on access to foreign oil? The oil companies haven't enjoyed rich subsidies for decades? Solyndra went out of business because they COULD compete with the lower price of commmercially available solar which happened a result of the 2008 legislation? That legislation wasn't signed into law by Bush? There isn't a surplus of oil in our country due to the lack of demand from a mild winter? We're not paying record prices? The oil companies aren't shipping the stuff overseas? Which is it, Blowhard Bill? You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on your blowhard backside. You ignore anything that doesn't fit your narrative, and that makes you... ahem... an idiot.
TheGreenGuru February 27, 2012 at 12:29 AM
And, oh, by the way, Bill, I'm not a Democrat. But, I guess you know better about THAT, too. What a boisterous blowhard buffoon you are.
Our Community February 27, 2012 at 09:52 PM
What we are looking at as a community is what do we want there? It would be great if we had a magic bullet but there is none. Let’s take the concepts of homes. I have lived here all my life and every time a new development of homes goes up so does my taxes. So putting in more homes brings more kids to the schools, more traffic, more public services needed, etc. You have no choice but to raise taxes to support this. In addition, once you build homes on the sod farm you have lost the land for the public to benefit from. Then there is the added stress on the water supply, additional cesspools and contamination added to the ground. Let us not forget the additional traffic would choke 25 A. If we were to add store fronts and box stores, well the same arguments appear. You may be able to hold taxes where they are but how much could they be reduced significantly. In order for those stores to survive you will need to increase the amount of traffic the roads could hold. So change and expand roads. The quality of life for all that live here would be greatly impacted, especially for those living within a half mile of the 25 A, north or south of it. The impact to noise, traffic and again public services would require someone to pay for it. Taxes would need to go up.
Our Community February 27, 2012 at 09:53 PM
Another point to consider is the need for energy on this Island. The power plants that exist now such as Northport and Port Jeff are coming to the end of their life cycle. We need to start thinking where our energy will come from. This would be one way and one that is not detrimental to the community and environment. In closing, no one ever said the solar farm would be an economic boom to the community. It will help hold off future electricity increases and future tax increases. I have lived here all my life. I cherish the community feeling and the quality of life. I have seen may move to this area for just that reason. If you are looking for an area that has lower taxes, then that is not on Long Island. What the solar farm provides is: Energy for about 3000 plus homes The land utilized in such a way that it can be returned as it is now, at any point Improving the quality of life for our children and their children Local air quality, traffic and school crowding will not be impacted by the solar farm. If we can design the area in such a way, it could be possible to provide electricity for the local schools. The elctricity cost in the schools is the next largest cost after personel cost. To answer the one question, why the individual from PA to put this farm up? It does not have to be them. The person from PA would hire all local to build and run the project. What he does is go out and find financial backers to create the farm. So this would be a local effort.
Our Community February 27, 2012 at 09:54 PM
I would like to just review some generalities and then get to what we as a community must decide. First, in December of 2011 the world was producing 67,400 MWatts from PV solar. That is up from 7,600MW in 2007. That much power equates to 134 Nuclear Power plants. That is a great deal of energy with no toxic waste or pollutants put into the air. Most importantly after 25 years Nuclear Power plant sites are contaminated where solar farms can be turned right back into the land it was, with no contamination from the solar farm.
BillLongisland February 27, 2012 at 10:57 PM
The man from Green Energy Capital said... "Although the county would benefit *finanancially, Curtis said residents wouldn’t see a positive change in their bill and could see a slight initial increase, though the farms would increase the assessed property value of the area. Over a longer period of time,residents could see minor decreases in their electric bills." http://www.northshoreoflongisland.com/pdf/vb_022312w.pdf What more do you need to figure out, it's Not Viable or Supportable a concept ? The ramifications for Tax Payers are clear.
K. February 28, 2012 at 03:35 PM
Solar? But I need my lights at night.
BillLongisland February 28, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Hey, don't you "get it" ? The man from Green Energy Capital said... "Although the county would benefit *finanancially, Curtis said residents wouldn’t see a positive change in their bill and could see a slight initial increase, though the farms would increase the assessed property value of the area. Over a longer period of time,residents could see minor decreases in their electric bills." http://www.northshoreoflongisland.com/pdf/vb_022312w.pdf Guess you are Not a property owner in Shoreham, who pays property taxes every year ? Shoreham Property Tax Info Zip Codes in Shoreham: 1 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TAX PROFILE http://www.valueappeal.com/properties/city/suffolk-county/shoreham-ny Avg. Assessment Avg. Sale Price $617,907 $429,424 $749/sqft. n/a Highest Assessment $879,870 Lowest Assessment $227,273 Avg. Home Size: 825 sqft. Largest Home 825 sqft. Smallest Home 825 sqft. http://www.valueappeal.com/properties/city/suffolk-county/shoreham-ny

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