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Teachers Never Work Without a Contract

Triborough Amemdment ensures continuation of teachers' contracts.

We are at the end of the 2011-2012 school year. This year there has been a lot of discussion on the Patch about how to solve the ever-increasing and unsustainable school taxes.  And I have added my voice to the conversation, which is still somewhat going on.  On some of the blogs I am still hearing one statement that just has to be clarified as it is giving incorrect information.

Some people have said that teachers are so dedicated to providing our children with quality education that they are often willing to work without a contract.  This is misleading. Teachers in New York State NEVER work without a contract. I believe there are many devoted teachers who do a fantastic job, but they still never work without a contract! And if you don’t believe this, you should learn more about the Triborough Amendment.

The Triborough Amendment guarantees that all of the terms of an existing contract  will continue even once that contract has expired. And these provisions will continue to be in effect until the next contract is signed by the union, even if it takes years.  Whatever salary increases and benefits were covered in the expired contract continue to be implemented. (And of course teachers always get their step increases whether or not a new contract is in effect.)  This gives the teachers’ unions no incentive to come to the negotiating table in good faith.  No matter how long it takes to sign a new contract, they will lose nothing.  They can only gain.

This happened a few years ago in the Rocky Point School District. Teachers worked with an expired (yet in force) contract for three years. And once they did sign a new contract one of the concessions made by the Rocky Point School Board was that the new provisions would be retroactive to cover the three years. Not bad!

So please remember the Triborough Amendment when you hear that teachers are working “without” a contract. It just doesn’t happen and in the long run the only ones that continue to lose are the taxpayers.

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Wlodek June 14, 2012 at 12:44 AM
Thanks for explaining this issue. Hope that residents in all school districts, not just Rocky Point are paying attention.
Matthew Lott June 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM
You want to solve the problem of expensive education ? Abolish public employee unions of all types of "representation" in schools. Public Employee Unions have turned into expensive "Entitlement Programs". For the teachers "problem"..."...not all teachers have to demonstrate their mastery before getting their first teaching assignment. How is it that unlicensed teachers are allowed into the classroom? Normally, with limited or emergency licenses granted when school districts run into labor shortages. It s scandalous when you think about it, because there s a lot of discussion that we need better-qualified teachers, says Susan Carmon, associate director of the National Education Association. But instead, we ve been going around hiring people who don t meet the standards." http://www.smartmoney.com/spend/rip-offs/10-things-your-school-district-will-not-tell-you/#articleTabs We all know about tenured teachers and the "rubber rooms" where some of those who do egregiously bad things go ! And the socalled "white collar" school bureaucrats are too well monied and "benefited-up" for them and their spouses/"significant others", And For Life ! Once they get on the Public Gravy Train, they "disappear" under their desk until they retire !
Andrew Cooper June 18, 2012 at 01:16 AM
Why don't you just pack up your stuff and your demented imperialistic opinions and move to some place where you can find a shred of happiness in your boring life. Oh and by the way good riddance when you leave...
Matthew Lott June 18, 2012 at 01:50 PM
Are you, by any chance another grateful public employee, who is a member of the New York State Teachers Retirement System ? Were you saying "Thank You" to Tax Payers, for your job there at Rocky Point Union "Free" School ? If you are, a Warm "You're Welcome", for letting us know the type of person who Tax Payers actually pay, to work in their school district ! Is this how you and your "buddies" there in RPSD feel about your Tax Paying Benefactors ? And you teach kids with that "mouth" ?
Matthew Lott June 18, 2012 at 10:38 PM
Hey is this you Andrew Cooper ? Andrew Cooper Rocky Point Union Free Schools $90,290.89 The figures may include salary, overtime, various benefits such as car or expense allowances, and -- in the case of employees who retired during the fiscal year -- payouts for unused vacation and sick time. http://longisland.newsday.com/templates/simpleDB/?order=compensation&desc=yes&pid=164&brand=newsday&fieldSelect-schoolDistrict=Rocky%2BPoint%2BUnion%2BFree%2BSchools&searchField=lastName&q=cooper
Andrew Cooper June 19, 2012 at 01:39 AM
Very presumptuous of you...I am a tax paying citizen... The battle lies in the legislature, and not against the unions. But no amount of common sense will ever persuade you...so rant and rave some more, there are very few listening...
Matthew Lott June 19, 2012 at 03:09 AM
Is this you, there, Andrew Cooper ???? COMMITTEE/SUBCOMMITTEE ON SPECIAL EDUCATION: (Comm. Reg. Subchapter P, Part 200) Alternate Chairperson Andrew Cooper page 8 COMMITTEE ON PRESCHOOL SPECIAL EDUCATION Alternate Chairperson Andrew Cooper page 10 http://www.rockypointschools.org/minutes/pdf/MINUTES%20Organizational%20Meeting%20July%201%202010.pdf
Matthew Lott June 19, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Is this you Andrew Cooper ? CHA...CHING ! Name Andrew L Cooper Branch Schools Agency Rocky Point Union Free Schools Sub Agency Rocky Point Union Free Schools (NYSTRS Member) Position Ndr Year 2011 Salary $95,748 Hire Date 4/7/97 Salary Start Date 7/1/10 Salary End Date 6/31/11 This is how "Andrew Cooper" compares with other NYS "public school employees", as to the annual salary he makes, according to FindTheData... AVERAGE SALARY Andrew L Cooper Rocky Point Union Free School District...$95,748 Public School Employees....................................................$48,005 All NY Employees................................................................$51,809 http://new-york-employees.findthedata.org/l/1063174/Andrew-L-Cooper
AnotherLocalMom June 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM
As I've said before, I have children in the Rocky Point School District.Last year I became tired of the fact that the only way this district seems to want to deal with the out-of-control taxes that we pay is to threaten us with cuts to programs that benefit our children rather than to where most of the money is spent--teachers' salaries and benefits! A very good friend of mine who also has children in the school told me to be careful. "Don't put your own name out there," she said. When she got up at a board meeting and said exactly what I said above, the next day, one of her teachers, in front of other students implied to her child that his mother didn't care about education! Andrew Cooper, as far as I'm concerned, you are that kind of teacher. It is what you say above that give teachers a bad name, not people like Mrs. Franco, who has and is asking reasoned questions. We just commemorated Memorial Day--a day that honors all the men and women that have died to preserve the right to speak freely and openly about just about anything. And all you have to say is "love it or leave it!" It seems to me that that's the only thing we should not be able to say in this country. It should be considered an attempt to overthrow a system of government that we all cherish dearly.
AnotherLocalMom June 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Mr. Cooper, all Mrs. Franco was trying to do in her blog was educate us. From what Matthew Lott posted, isn't that your job? So, if what Mrs. Franco said is wrong or more information is needed, educate us instead of just telling her to leave.
AnotherLocalMom June 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM
People are listening, Mr. Cooper. This was shown by how close the election on the budget was this year as opposed to previous years. And, if something that makes sense isn't done, if this board doesn't take a stand that benefits everyone, rather than just you and yours, don't be so sure that next year it will pass at all.
Matthew Lott June 19, 2012 at 11:47 AM
AnotherLocalMom, You have to understand, when a "teacher" like this, talks that way, he is Confident with his Union Thugs behind him...and the lifetime benefits, for him and his whatever, in his pocket ! Face to Face he is just another Craven Public Employee Union Bully, with Lifetime Benefits, for him and his whatever ! It is a pity, the children under his daily tutelage, and the parents thereof, don't see him here, as he Really is..."unplugged" and exposed for what he is. He Never said, "Thank You" in his entire life for anything, probably. It's just "take and take More", with these types.
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