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Residents Want Involvement in Development of Rocky Point Drive-In

Formal announcement of litigation won by the Town of Brookhaven followed by community members call for more involvement in decision-making process.

After the Town of Brookhaven formally announced its litigation victory to retain recreational zoning at the Rocky Point Drive-In site at a press conference Tuesday, the question that lingered was; now what?

With the victory by the Town, the site can . This decision also came on the heels of the site being removed as a . Now with recreational zoning intact, residents looked ahead at what comes next in the development of the 18 acres located along 25a and stressed the importance of community involvement in the decision making.

"Supervisor [Mark] Lesko said at the podium there will be 'long and vibrant discussion of future proposals for the use of this property', which I hope means the community will be involved in any proposals that will be forthcoming," said James Weber, of Rocky Point "I’d like to see this 18 acres benefit the community, as the community as a whole would see fit."

Richard Brons, another Rocky Point resident, called for a community vote regarding any possible plans with the site.

"Anything that involves Rocky Point should be voted on by the people, it shouldn’t be just voted on by the town," Brons said. "We as individuals need to exert our constitutionally given rights. We need to be made aware, question and ask ‘what is the whole picture, what are the ramifications?’

Supervisor Lesko and Councilwoman Jane Bonner spoke at Tuesday's press conference and said that they want to make sure the property is developed into something that residents want. The two also took some time to answer residents' questions after the press conference.

"Anything that happens at this site, and believe me we hope something happens that's productive for the community, will reflect the community sentiments," Lesko said.

Brons pointed to the fact that Rocky Point is very blue collar, and since people are so busy, decisions like this should be clearly laid out in front of them.

"Where’s the time?," Brons asked. "People need to know ‘this is your choice, this is what’s happening.’ There needs to be a public awareness. Once people realize they do have power in their community maybe we’ll get more interest."

Brooklyn Bagels & Cafe, Inc March 14, 2012 at 02:19 AM
Something Community orientated is what would be great! Could the Town could be the ones to add a Community Center? Especially in these economic times, most Likely both parents are working- kids could have a place to go and meet after school or join activities. I am not totally aware of all the particulars. But with the The town and the people of RP- I'm sure we can think of something great...I will admitt- if I could I would put a DRIVE-IN back. Those were great memories that our family spent together!!
NSYC_BoardMember March 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Would love to see a place for the teen to play hockey and skate
Tom March 14, 2012 at 12:36 PM
How about a SSI office or a homeless shelter or soup kitchen. After hearing about how broke Suffolk is along with Brookhaven that's what we will need. You need more homes that are in the communities price range. Parks cost money and not used by all the residents all the time. You either build something that is used by everyone or build housing. Hockey, Skate, Baseball, Football all sound good, but, what about the people that live here that don't play any of the above. Where does that leave them? I will tell you, paying tax money each year for something they don't use the same as School taxes by people that have no children in schools or live in senior communities. It's a rip off. Build a park of any kind and your just adding to your tax bill and everyone in Brookhaven tax bills.
sean March 14, 2012 at 01:01 PM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sound-Beach-Neighborhood-Crime-Stoppers/182189858550986
Mommy Roe March 14, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Let's not forget that even though the town won the court case, they DON'T own the property! The present owners still have the right to build whatever THEY want as long as it fits into the zoning plan. Although it's not likely that these particular owners would be interested in building anything not commercially related, they would still need to decide to sell, the land would still have to be acquired and we, as a community, should be working on ways to make that possible if and when the sale of that property becomes a reality. 16+ acres will not come cheap...let's work on ideas to come up with funding to acquire them, should that come to fruition!
K. March 14, 2012 at 01:26 PM
Another difficulty with a conventional open-space park is that at night, it will inevitably turn into a "hang-out" with who-knows-what going on (we DO know what). It will have to be monitored, patroled, etc. When it isn't, (adequately), people will complain, and rightly so; it will be like the boat launch, sections near Broadway, and the other spots that everyone but the authorities seem to know about.
EJ Lopez March 14, 2012 at 02:28 PM
The town should buy the property and build a multi-purpose community center. A place that could host community events, perhaps have an indoor poor, offer classes in yoga, pottery, tutoring students. Let's connect seniors with younger people in education partnerships. The center could host speakers, discussion groups, exhibits, community parties - things that middle and working class families could benefit from during the winter, things that don't cost money. There is absolutly nothing to do on Long Island that doesn't involve spending money for movies, skating, or going to the mall. I'd happly support an increase in my taxes to pay for such a place. It would greatly enhance our community, bring people together, and cost us a whole heck of a lot less money in the end.
EJ Lopez March 14, 2012 at 02:33 PM
I completely agree!!!
c garilli March 14, 2012 at 02:39 PM
Maybe a YMCA? They provide jobs, recreation, exercise etc.
yomomma March 14, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Dog park...there's a community center right up the road. Homeless shelter?? Do you want more transients walking around than we already have??
simplelife March 14, 2012 at 05:26 PM
I'd like to give some credit to Richard Brons, it seems like his name is popping up in several positive stories recently.....how about that guy makes some decisions around here?
John Easterbrook March 14, 2012 at 06:22 PM
HERE ARE SOME PROS AND CONS TO RECONSTRUCTING THE DRIVE IN: PROS: Its something for all ages, and all types of people, from children who can meet other kids on the playground, to older folks who may want to show off a classic car, to young people just looking for something different, its Americana! It will bring people in from all parts of long island to spend money and boost the local economy and really put us on the map. The last year it was opened in 1988 cars were lined up to Waldbaums to get in. Drive-ins on Long Island didn’t fail because of lack of popularity but because the business model was no longer profitable, which brings us to the cons: Cons: Not cost affective, since taxes on LI are high, profit margins for movies are tight and Drive in theaters can only operate in the summer and at night, there’s just not enough revenue to make it cost affective UNLESS its subsidized or town owned (like any park). The last drive-in in Westbury stayed open at a loss for years because residence begged the owner to keep it going...
John Easterbrook March 14, 2012 at 06:22 PM
…Maybe only classic movies are shown there and it can be rented out for daytime events like car shows or swap meets. Maybe it can still double as a driving range by day since those structures are still intact. The business model would need to be creative but can surely be successful with a little town help. When considering the cost and benefit, the town NEEDS to consider the not so measurable collateral benefits, like the economic engine this could be as being the only Drive-in on long island. The fan fair could be great “Long Island Reopens its First Drive-in in 25 years -next on CNN” ;-)
J March 14, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Driving range. A sport the whole family can enjoy.
Michael March 15, 2012 at 12:18 AM
I think a correctional facility/ jail would be better then anything in that spot. We have people breaking into homes in the daytime. The police do nothing about it. Maybe if the police spend more time in their patrol car, and less time at the firehouse watching tv, the crime in the area will decrease. With the problem with jail over crowding, it may just work. Only problem is if a prisoner escapes. He or she blends in with the trash we have in the Rocky Point and Sound Beach. Another problem is if prisoners get loose and get in the Shoreham area. Shoreham has alot of woman who do not work. They are home alone. These criminals know that. I suggest these woman go out to work. I hope they do not steal their SUV's. Botton line, plenty of acres for the prison.
Paul Sullivan March 15, 2012 at 01:00 AM
A soup citchen on 18 acres...what about the people who don't like soup?
sean March 15, 2012 at 04:19 AM
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sound-Beach-Neighborhood-Crime-Stoppers/182189858550986
32 year resident March 17, 2012 at 02:34 AM
a GREAT SPORTS COMPLEX LIKE THE ONE THEY JUST BUILT ON THE SOUTH SHORE; PATCHOGUE I BELIEVE; IT CAN BE USED OR (RENTED) BY VARIOUS LEAGUES; TOWNS; KEEP EVERYONE ACTIVE; THIS IS SUCH A PRIME PIECE THAT IS STILL ZONED COMMERCIAL RECREATION; WHICH I THINK; AT LEAST IN THE TOWN OF BROOKHAVEN THAT MAYBE THIS IS THE ONLY PARCEL ZONED FOR THIS USE; IT WILL NEVER BE A PARK, OPEN SPACE, OR GIVIEN TO THE COUNTY OR TOWN; THE OWNER AFTERALL HAS TO BE ABLE TO SELL IT OR DEVLOPE IT THEMSELVES; WE REALLY NEED SOMEONE TO INVEST WHO COULD PROFIT AND AT THE SAME TIME SUPPLY OUR COMMU ITY AS WELL AS OTHERS SOME TYPE OF RECREATION WHICH WE SO BADLY NEED';
RPSteve March 19, 2012 at 04:20 PM
Target would have been a BOON to the neighborhood. Lots of jobs available for youth, increases the tax base, provides jobs, provides jobs, brings in people who will eat in local restaurants and shop in other local stores, provides jobs and most of all, provides jobs. The people in this town are short sited, or live in a fantasy land of the past where they think a YMCA or the like would be good use for PRIME real estate. Grow up and wake up, the world is passing you by. Buggy whip manufacturing is a dead end business. If you don't like what is being done with a piece of land, or maybe you like open space, then BUY IT YOURSELF and do with it what you will. Otherwise move while your house is still worth something and before your taxes break 20,000 a year.
John Easterbrook March 19, 2012 at 06:21 PM
Expensive Fantasy Land VS. a tax-relieving box store, there has been strong arguments for both. A smaller retail outfit may have agreed to maintain a smaller community rec center on the property (splitting it in half) We could have had our cake and ate it too, but since the commercial recreation zoning has won in the NYS supreme court after a 10 year battle, We’ll need to look forward. The property may remain vacant for a while until someone comes in with something very creative.
RPSteve March 20, 2012 at 01:22 PM
Why don't you tell us what [b][i]you[/i][/b] think? We all don't have an hour to watch a video on a phone(not to mention the batteries!).
RPSteve March 20, 2012 at 04:57 PM
Wow. I see your point Pete. Here is a better link that goes to the portion of the video you are talking about.. http://youtu.be/2w1CFj74jvE?t=33m45s
Jennifer June 12, 2012 at 05:43 PM
A drive in would be great. There are not many left and would really be a special family destination.
Matthew Lott June 12, 2012 at 06:03 PM
If there were a genuine...genuine desire for resident involvement by Lesko and Bonner, the Town would have Not proceeded with the litigation, In The First Place. This is just another charade, that Tax Payers will be excluded from. Like Lesko stated..."Anything that happens at this site, and believe me we hope something happens that's productive for the community, will reflect the community sentiments,"....but it''s going to be what The Labor Unions want and approve. Don't be Fooled by this Bad Performance, by Town Of Brookhaven, Players...Mark Lesko, Theater Director !
Peter Oleschuk June 12, 2012 at 07:16 PM
Everyone needs to take a deep breath and find out what's happening NEXT. What could that be? The 25A Corridor Study, something that could change Rocky Point forever and can influence the direction of this property's viability in a big "whatever." Today, the TOB Planning Department will release the plan to Councilwoman Bonner. I wonder how fast those details will be released to us? Next Thursday, the Town Board will review the 25A Corridor Study in their Work Session. You know, the one you see on channel 18 about 3 weeks after the fact! What next? The following week, June 26, 2012, 5:00 PM Brookhaven Town Hall, it WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR A VOTE TO ACCEPT! Now how much time will we have to see what it contains and then digest how it will change Rocky Point forever? If accepted, ONE MEETING: Public Hearing on July 17, 2012 when many are away on vacation, last chance to voice your opinions! Last month, the town board voted to go on "hiatus in August" so there will be no meetings to file grievances in August. Now hear this, the start of Spetember is Labor Day. No Town Board meeting until September 25, 2012 when they will vote to finalize it to "the point of no return!" Didn't we all just get an expensive 4 color flyer from our councilwoman to bring us all up to date on "what have I done for you lately?" WHY WAS THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION LEFT OUT?
Matthew Lott June 12, 2012 at 08:00 PM
"Today, the TOB Planning Department will release the plan to Councilwoman Bonner." Wait, there Peter. What does this mean, Please ? Wasn't the corridor study already completed around March 2011, and subsequently, officially accepted by the Town, at a Town Board meeting ? To, perhaps, an effort of Bonner to intentionally confound Tax Payers, " Ms. Bonner, who represents the Mount Sinai area, asked the Town Board to vote against Mr. Lesko’s resolution until her Route 25A Corridor Study is finalized in December to “give the project the proper review as it relates to the corridor,” she said." http://northshoresun.timesreview.com/2011/08/16849/medical-office-park-coming-to-miller-place-this-spring/ Her comments were made in relation to a, then, proposed medical park that was to be located behind the CVS in Miller Place. Peter, what Theee Heck, is going on ? Jane Bonner's "Three Card Monte Game", regarding Her elongated, Corridor Study, is getting kind of silly !
Peter Oleschuk June 13, 2012 at 12:12 AM
FromPlanning: Route 25A Corridor Land Use Plan PROPOSED SEQR TIMELINE ACTIONS: Adopt Land Use Plan & Generic Environmental Impact Statement March 28, 2012: Begin 30-day Coordination to Interested Agencies (TB intends to prepare & adopt a Rt 25a LUP) May 8: Town Board Resolution: Assume Lead Agency Status/Adopt Positive Declaration Jan /June 2012: Prepare DGEIS for LUP/Phase 1 Rezonings/Local Laws June 5: Novus for Acceptance Resolution June 12: Citizens Advisory Committee Distribution June 19: TB Work Session Presentation June 26, 2012: Accept LUP & DGEIS as complete; Initiate 30-day Comment Period/Post Draft LUP on Town Website. Set joint Public Hearing for DGEIS & Draft LUP Set Public Hearings on Local Laws GML 239-m Referral to SCPC & GML 239n to Riverhead/ JPPCCPB July 11, 2012: Presentation of Draft LUP to S.C. Planning Commission July 17, 2012: Public Hearing on Draft LUP & DGEIS. Public Hearings on Overlay Districts Public Hearings on Local Laws July 27, 2012: Public comment ends. Close Hearings. Begin FEIS & Findings Statement Sept 11, 2012: Accept FGEIS (Within 45-days of the close of Public Hearings) Wait min 10-days before adopting findings. Sept 25, 2012: Adopt Findings for Land Use Plan/TBOM Rezonings/Local Laws Adopt LUP/TBOM OD Rezonings/Local Laws Last Revised 06/12/2012 8:06 PM
Matthew Lott June 13, 2012 at 06:13 AM
Thanks Peter, please "translate" for us ? I don't speak "Town of Brookhaven-ese". If the above link, that I posted, is any indication, she and other appropriate Town officials really "milk" The Process, don't they ? I mean, there are a Lot of "taste$" in there, that translates into a lot of "campaign contributions", and whatever else they can scam, in terms of compensatory renumerations. Who said it was a Personal ATM Card, to be a Town employee...and the higher you go up the food chain, it just gets more lucrative ! That Town "general employee" check is downright puny, compared to what can be scammed by "elected/appointed" Town officials ! No wonder the US Attorney's Office opened an Islip mini-branch, just for Brookhaven ! And that Lesko went over to the Dark $ide !
Peter Oleschuk June 13, 2012 at 02:15 PM
Matthew, your link, the history of 25A Corridor Study, Rocky Point Target fiasco all tie together like oil, gas, antifreeze and sawdust in an auto repair shop. Toxic to say the least, impossible to clean up and will land you on you ass no matter how carefully you walk. Sadly, "they walk around" and the rest of us are directed right into it. Yup, it's all confusing. Much of this was put in motion years ago by individual posers on committees that either hid under a rock or moved out of town. they continue to blog and support the Bonner-fried Facts that we're supposed to believe. On June 14, 2011, I filed a grievance at the Town board meeting on the 25A Corridor Study "comedy of events" and question compliance with Open Government law that went into effect April 10, 2011. Last night, I repeated the filing of that same grievance and also reminded that this has gone on for a year and repeating the same offense to public right to be informed. Less than 12 people from the entire Town of Brookhaven had anything to say at all, good or bad. They're all too busy blogging under their acronym names. Until there's an outpouring of residents at all meetings, town baord, planning and zoning, nothing will change. I have some confidence that there are a few good people in the various positions.Unsupported by the public, they cannot be successful. Others can be influenced by outpouring from their community. CD2 has had meek public participation. Few step away from the keyboard.
Matthew Lott June 13, 2012 at 02:31 PM
Peter, in the Real World, people are working and taking care of themselves, and their families and loved ones, and trying to survive The War upon their very existence, every day, in this Country of ours today. In this Town they are summarily, and intentionally "gerrymandered" out of, and excluded from the Political Process. Of this you would appear to very well know. The internet and when they vote is the only thing they are given to express themselves with. It is in this Real World that Predators thrive...you know like the ones who inhabit Independence Hill, there, at Town Hall ? So in a town where school districts vote until they get what they want, give Them, the working and Surviving people of this town and country, a "break" and the benefit of your Doubts about them ! They ain't as without knowledge as you think they are.

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